Its time to strap on your time machine. Given Michael Pineda’s spring velocity issues and shoulder tendonitis, would you still go back and trade Jesus Montero for Michael Pineda trade? I’d like to keep the focus only on those two, since I see the inclusion of Jose Campos and Hector Noesi as a side issue.
Given the chance, I would take the trade back, and wouldn’t think too hard about it. While Michael Pineda proved this spring that he pitching skills weren’t all about velocity, by flashing a fantastic slider and quickly taking to the change-up, the shoulder injury should scare you off. Pineda’s missing velocity was very real (not just an early spring training abberation, as a lot of people suspected), and the underlying problem has the potential to sideline him for some time. Even if he manages to keep pitching, but not at full velocity, his effectiveness could be significantly reduced.
The problem is that we gave up a lot to get Michael Pineda. Jesus Montero wasn’t without his uncertainties, but still brought with him a pretty high floor to match his upside. In the reasonable worst case scenario, Montero would have been an effective designated hitter on the Billy Butler level. We thought that Michael Pineda was a similar kind of young player, but a suspect shoulder makes him quite a bit riskier.
Now, we shouldn’t get ahead of ourselves. It is very possible that the Yankees put Pineda on the disabled list because of some combination of the following reasons: they didn’t want to send him to the minors, they were being extremely cautious with a golden arm, or they already had a full rotation, so why the hell not. I didn’t think we were at the proper time for panicking when his velocity stayed down in spring training, and I don’t think we’re there yet, although we are inching closer. I do think we need to introduce the possibility of another outcome here: the Yankees may have bought a lemon.
I’ve blogged about the problem of lemons in the trade market before. Teams know more about their own players than any other teams know, just like you know more about your used car than the rest of the world. Finding out this information without first buying the car and experiencing it can be very difficult. You can take a test drive, roughly equivalent to checking a player’s medical records and going through and MRI, but you can’t really get all of your information until after the sale is finalized. Economics tells us that parties will try to sell their lemons and hold on to their keepers.
Pineda’s velocity has been declining since the middle of last season. The book on the decline was that Pineda was holding back – pitching rather than throwing – and still maintained the ability to juice up the radar gun. It is possible that this was less than 100% true. If Seattle knew that there were potential shoulder problems down the road for Pineda, it would explain their strong desire to trade a potential ace under team control for 5 years.
I’m not ready to say that Pineda is a lemon yet. But given the increased risk of that being the case, I’d take Jesus Montero back without too much thought. But that’s just me. I know that several of our TYA writers feel strongly the other way. How do you all feel?
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