Realistic offseason expectations
It hasn’t even been a week since the postseason officially came to a end, and already excitement over the Hot Stove is in full force. This offseason will be no different from prior years as elite free agents will surely continue to grab the headlines. Ludicrous trade proposals, driven by the inherent optimism and unexpectedness of the offseason, are bound to run rampant and somehow they’ll all include the Yankees. Therefore, I figured we should probably proactively reconsider our Hot Stove expectations. Perhaps that will help encourage some sense of reasonableness.
Prospects are way too often overvalued.
This point is likely to earn me some flak; I know, this group of Baby Bombers is totally different, right? This is the group that is going to turn into something special. Thanks to the ever-increasing indepth coverage of our teams, we as fans have become exponentially more educated about the “ins and outs” of the organization. Unsurprisingly, this can certainly create a sense of attachment to players down in the farm system. Now, more than ever, we are aware of the cost controlled kids as they mash their way through each level of the minors. We get caught up at times recalling the good ol’ days when a core group of Yankee kids helped win championship after championship during the late ’90s, establish a dynasty, and become generational icons in the process.
Unfortunately, this path isn’t exactly guaranteed nor is it even necessarily the norm. Many prospects simply don’t pan out (including the elite ones). I remember a time when seemingly everyone waxed poetic about Minor Leaguers such as Jeff Francoeur and Delmon Young. Sure, these two first-round picks have enjoyed Major League careers, but they certainly haven’t reached the stardom that their projections initially suggested. Predicting prospect success is a risky business and for a team such as the Yankees, retaining quality youth can be complicated as the organization can contemplate paying for the proven commodity. Each prospect has to be carefully scrutinized and each opportunity of risk versus reward has to be contemplated when a trade is proposed. This leads me to my next point.
No player should be deemed “untouchable.”
I’m certain this one is certainly going to make some of you cringe. We all have reservations about giving up particular players; heck, TYA’s EJ Fagan wrote a really solid post yesterday discussing which players could be used as trade bait and which players should be off limits. It is my belief that players such as Jesus Montero, Manny Banuelos, Phil Hughes, Curtis Granderson, Nick Swisher, or anyone else for that matter, always remain available in trade discussions. In my book, no one is off limits.
Don’t be confused here; I’m not necessarily advocating that the players listed above should be shipped off. Simply, I’m suggesting the Yankees (and us as fans) need to be open to the idea of losing a big name if it means the team is able to improve overall. Everyone has a price, and it’s up to Brian Cashman and Company to assess whether the price is appropriate.
Scamming the competition is hard.
I suppose this concept is both fortunate and unfortunate depending on how you look at it. When trades are made, obviously, the luxury of hindsight does not exist. Cashman saw qualities in Swisher that he valued and subsequently made an offer to the White Sox for him. Obviously, the change of scenery worked out brilliantly for the Yankees and much less so for the White Sox. Not every deal is quite so polarizing though. Teams agree to trades because they hope for reciprocal reward, not out of charity to another organization’s cause.
In the same vein, a team’s undesirables (B and C level prospects), is generally not compelling enough for a fantastic return. When we make our outrageous trade proposals, consider the other GM’s situation. Do the Dodgers really want to hand over Matt Kemp for six or seven prospects that are may become long relief or utility players? Does an abundance of replacement-level quality adequately compensate for proven MLB talent? Should the Mariners decide to shop King Felix, expect the bounty to be substantial; anything less than a massive return would probably signal gross incompetence on Seattle’s behalf. In other words, stop trying to unload our team’s crap for someone else’s gem.
Not every move has to be a blockbuster (nor should it be).
More often than not, colleagues of mine approach me with these really extravagant proposals. I’m waiting for someone to suggest the Yanks dump A-Rod, move Tex to third, and sign Pujols for first base. Just for good measure, the Yankees can sign Carlos Beltran as a backup OF/DH. When in doubt, invite fix or six teams into the mix (who needs the complexity of a three-team trade!), and get some playing swapping underway! Forget about salaries or team dynamics, it’s about making the biggest splash.
As it turns out, every club needs some role players to help compliment the superstars. This isn’t a bad thing either. As we discovered last offseason, strengthening a bench or a bullpen can really pay dividends down the road. A good example of this involves the group of players that we “affectionately” dub the scrap heap. It’s always worth exploring players such as these; just imagine where the Yankees might have been if they hadn’t taken fliers on guys like Bartolo Colon, or Freddy Garcia.
Not every team has the same constraints.
I think this is easily my favorite point of the ones listed because it almost contradicts everything I’ve said thus far. Every team has a unique set of circumstances and priorities. It’s not much of a secret that the Yankees have more money than God any other team and can absorb bad contracts easier than anyone else. There seems to be an understood payroll cap of approximately $200M, but if Cashman decided to go on a shopping spree and landed the final payroll at $220M, would any of us honestly be surprised?
The Yankeees will undoubtedly be in the mix for every big named free agent and trade rumor. Much of this is marketing and/or the Yankees simply exploring their options. Even though the Yankees could theoretically make some of these maneuvers, it’s not necessarily in their best interest. The team should look to improve areas that need improving — as much as I’d like Fielder on the team, another DH just isn’t practical.
That’s all for now. I’m sure there are some other good thoughts on the matter that I’ve forgotten. Feel free to jot down your thoughts on the post, the offseason, or whatever else is on your mind.
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Great post Matt, even if you are a godless, surrendering communist. I particularly agree w/ the points you made about no prospects being “untouchable” and the uniqueness of the Yankees financial situation compared to other teams. I think a lot of bloggies write like the Yankees are just another team with some restrictive budget.
Appreciate the praise, Sean. As for me being a godless, surrendering communist … completely true.
Agree completely with most all of these points. I’d argue that scamming the competition shouldn’t even be the goal. The goal is to get better by trading from positions of strength to improve relative weak areas. It is much less important to “win” the trade than to improve your own team. People tend to view trades as a zero sum game when they aren’t. You shouldn’t even want to repeatedly “scam” the competition or you’d find it hard to find future trading partners. It is also more important to acquire the right players than to pay slightly under or slightly over perceived market value.
Related to your point about blockbusters is that flexibility is important and you shouldn’t even want to go fill every position with the greatest talent available because the greatest talent is going to require long term commitments at large annual salaries which even on the Yankees causes problems. The Yankees have a greater ability to absorb mistakes but it is still not desirable to have so many contracts that are essentially untradeable. 4-5+ year commitments should only be made to really elite players not to just the best free agent who might fill a current need.
Another pet peeve of mine is how often fans claim that the Yankees got shafted because a team accepted an offer they view as inferior. Players and prospects are valued much differently by different evaluators and organizations and sometimes teams just don’t match up well. Get over it.
Very well said, bg!
Great post. It’s hard for me seeing this massive idea of trading scrap for gold. A lot of our prospects lost their trade value, there’s no one out there who would give us a #1 starter for Phil Hughes,Eduardo Nunez and David Phelps.
Great post, especially the part about not trading crap for stars. I’m sick of people suggesting things like Nuñez+Phelps+Culver for Gio Gonzalez.
Speaking of Gio, rumor is he’ll be on the block. What would you give for him? I was thinking Betances, Sanchez, and Warren (two top 50 prospects is reasonable in my opinion), maybe with a guy like Jorge Vazquez just to sweeten the pot a bit. Or maybe Banuelos+Sanchez. I’m hesitant to give up Manny, but like you said no one should be untouchable.
Hell No For Gio!
Thats my take on it. He pitches in a weak division where the rangers are the only strong offensive team. Not to mention he pitches in The Oakland Colliseum. If you make a trade for anybody make it Garza. He’s pitched in the east and has playoff experience