Right now, a lot of BBWAA members are looking over their Hall of Fame ballots, and deciding who to vote for. With only 10 spots on the ballots for votes, the results this year are certainly going to be interesting. A lot of deserving players will fail to clear the bar, and the Veteran’s Committee will be watching.
We don’t have votes, but if we did, below are how your TYA bloggers would vote for the Hall of Fame.
The results are pretty homogeneous, for good reason. We are all of similar mindsets, and have similar epistemological approaches about baseball. I included some interesting names that did not garner votes on the bottom.
Who would you vote for? Were we dead wrong about any of the candidates? Who do you expect the BBWAA writers to vote for? Let’s hear it.
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Biggio (I like the spelling Biggoo above!)
Schilling
Martinez
I would wait to see on the rest. I would never vote for Bonds or Clemens – I am of the mind that they were part of the problem and should not be rewarded. They already got their payment for their cheating (MVPs and Cy Youngs).
Ha, nice catch. I’ll fix Biggio.
Speaking of Biggio, why on earth did you leave him off your ballot? Too many other qualified players? The guy got on base ran well played defense and had some power. His 1997 is ridiculous! Vlad Guerrero had fewer bases on walks than Biggio had in HPB’s. Please tell me you’d vote for him if the ballot cleared out a bit.
And no GIDP’s. Ridiculous!!!
He was a victim of the 10-name limit. I had him at #11. Given an expanded ballot, I’d vote for him.
Biggio’s a Hall of Famer by virtue of playing tough positions all of his career, good defense, and longevity, but let’s not forget that he was a career .281/.363/.433 hitter.
You definitely have a point, but I think so much of his value doesn’t show up in the triple slash. I’m a big fan of valuing a players peak years at a premium as well.
A rant directed to the world at large, not the YA team:
It strikes me that a lot of people are getting hot under the collar about this voting not because they give a damn about the Hall of Fame, but because they want the world to validate their own position on steroids. I read complaints that the Hall of Fame with(out) Bonds will be a joke written by people who have been complaining for 20 years that the Hall of Fame is already a joke.
The Hall of Fame will live either way. It didn’t collapse because Pete Rose isn’t in it, it didn’t collapse because Joe Jackson isn’t in it, it didn’t collapse because Freddie Lindstrom got elected, just as baseball didn’t collapse because of the strike in ’94, or the DH, or because the playoff games start on TNT and move to TBS.
LET’S ALL GET SOME PERSPECTIVE BEFORE MY BRAIN EXPLODES.
All this stuff about who the greatest players are obscures how wonderful the museum is. Seeing Ted Williams’ locker thrilled me. Seeing plaques with a bunch of BS on them bored me.
Now I want to go back to the Hall of Fame. Let’s all meet up there to kill some time during the offseason.
It’s simple if you cheated and we know those that did they do not get in because they got paid in cash because that was all they were interested in; not playing the game the way it should be played.
Let’s take out all those who used amphetamines then, let’s take out all those who played without color players in the league yet barnstormed against them in the offseason to make money, let’s take out Cobb since he was the dirtiest player to play the game, let’s take out everyone who ever used a spit ball, scuffed the ball, stole signs, brawled on the field, and every other thing in baseball that isn’t “playing the right way”. Ridiculous argument is ridiculous.
You’re right a ridiculous argument is ridiculous, like your assertion that all the other ways of cheating are on par with the use of performance enhancing drugs. As far as I’m aware stealing signs, using amphetamines etc never allowed a player to hit 70+ HR’s. Common. The use of steroids in Baseball is by far and away the most impactful form of cheating the sport has ever sen and has no comparison. Those players were rewarded during their careers, let’s not continue to reward them tarnishing the sport.
I mostly agree with the results. However, I am unhappy that Lofton didn’t garner any support. He’s a better choice than Schilling and Walker
Trying to figure out the love for Alan Trammell and Tim Raines and the disregard for McGriff and to some extent Walker. McGriff hit 100s more homers that Tram or Raines, way more RBIs. Then there are the stats you guys love like OPS and walks and McGriff way out slugged Tramm and Raines. McG had a .377 career OBP, I thought you guys liked that (to go w his 490 homers) I mean, it’s nice to analyze, scrutinize, compare, and all the things that Sabertat people do, and get to the nitty gritty on skill of players, and learn that Trammell was a better SS than McGriff was at 1st base but McGs teams seemed to win some games. To see him get zero votes to Tram and Tim get 6 for 6 just seems strange.
Now I need to say that as a Yankee fan, I loved how Timmy helped the Yanks win in 96 and 98 yet my love does not outweigh the idea that McG would deserve some votes….and I could not care less about Fred McGriff but he was just as good, if not better than Trammell or Raines, although, comparing them is apples and oranges.
I only comment here cuz I’m still trying to understand the minds of the younger writers. Cause to me, who watched these guys in their primes (25 years ago) Trammell and Raines were considered good, solid players. They seemed to knock at the door of super stardom, kinda hang around the edge of greatness…kinda the way McGriff did. Tramell was a good all around player, Raines kinda one dimensional.
I think if I could vote, McG would get in 1st….with those other 2 sometime down the line…kinda opposite of your team of experts.
I’d also vote Larry Walker in before McGriff, but at least he got a couple of votes from you guys. Didn’t he win a few batting titles? Maybe you discount his play due to Coors field. I can see that.
This shouldn’t be a very difficult question to answer. Defense is a thing.
So a singles hitter like Raines gets your vote because he led the league in errors for an outfielder and then say defense is a thing? So dude, remember, defense is a thing.
And a guy who hit SEVERAL HUNDRED more homers than Raines with the same OBP and out slugged him by a mile doesn’t get in cause he was not as good defensively as Trammell.
That makes sense in stoned out of your mind world maybe….duh, I vote for Raines cuz, duh, Trammell was better on D than McGriff. And, duh, I voted for Trammell cuz Raines stole more bases than McGriff. lol….lol…lol
In other words, Raines was not known as a gifted outfielder.
Bonds, Clemens, Sosa. . . shame on all of you.