Ichiro makes his Yankee Stadium debut tonight against the Red Sox. Phil Hughes is on the bump for the Yanks and Aaron Cook (along with his 0.75 K/9 and 2.1 K%) takes the hill for the Sox.
Lineups:
NEW YORK:
1. Derek Jeter (R) SS
2. Curtis Granderson (L) CF
3. Robinson Cano (L) 2B
4. Mark Teixeira (S) 1B
5. Raul Ibanez (L) LF
6. Andruw Jones (R) DH
7. Eric Chavez (L) 3B
8. Ichiro Suzuki (L) RF
9. Russell Martin (R) C
BOSTON:
1. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
2. Carl Crawford (L) LF
3. Dustin Pedroia (R) 2B
4. Adrian Gonzalez (L) 1B
5. Cody Ross (R) RF
6. Jarrod Saltalamacchia (S) C
7. Will Middlebrooks (R) 3B
8. Daniel Nava (S) DH
9. Mike Aviles (R) SS
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We shud b able 2 do 2 of 3 but hers hoping 4 the sweep!!!!!
Before the season started most folks thought both WC teams would come from the AL East. Now it looks possible none will be from the East.
This division thing really makes it hard to compare teams.
The Stadium doesn’t seem to be buzzing.
Not Hughes’ finest inning. I hope he’s not back to the two-out two-strike thing.
Hughes was having problems finding Martin’s glove until Salty. Too many balls were drifting out over the plate.
I can’t wait until Swisher is back and Ichiro is in LF.
That will definitely be an improvement, unless Swisher is really hurt more than he’s letting on.
With Alex out we need his bat more than ever, Ibanez hitting 5th is not cool.
On the other hand, maybe he’ll rise to the occasion!
I like him as the LH DH I just prefer him hitting 6th or 7th. I said in ST as long as he hits 20+ HRs I’m cool with him getting most of the DH ABs, he looks to be on pace for that.
The OBP is low for me. It might be a touch higher if Girardi would stop giving him at bats against lefties.
In this instance I really don’t care. You know when you sign Ibanez he’s never been a big OBP guy, at this point he’s a power LH DH and I’m good with that.
Well, a RISP hit, but still no run. Get him in!
SS took a long time to get the throw off, it seemed.
Ibanez had a terrific May but an abysmal June.
Maybe he needs Nolan Ryan to remind him Hank Aaron never gave away ABs.
Reggie Jackson gave away an at bat, and he’s in the Hall of Fame.
Reggie’s no Gary Carter ;)
Ha!
Seriously though Reggie has no business talking about who does and doesn’t belong in the hall. If you don’t look at the HR totals his numbers aren’t the most impressive in the world all in total.
Wow, Angels are gonna be tough with Greinke.
Couple comments from Over The Monster:
That’s a HOME RUN?
I am seriously disgusted by this park.
Driven “deep” to RF.
Yeah, I need to turn off Yes now.
What did I miss? oh and I finally got the call back from the hospital. Im hired! Starting August 13 thank god
CONGRATULATIONS!!! Are you still sober?
Thank you thank you. About to starting drinking right now before my friends pick me up. Breaking out the good stuff…grey goose for me tonight.
That’s Alfred Hitchcock’s birthday!
One of the best filmmakers of all time. Given that im a film fanatic he probably brought me luck
I’m a bit of an old movie fan, too. My Dad used to co-host movie nights at a Y years ago.
I agree. I have at least 15 of movies on DVD.
Much better 2nd inning from Hughes.
Weaver, Greinke, Haren, Wilson, Santana what a rotation.
Did they give Ichiro a uniform that fits, so he doesn’t have to tug at the shoulder?
Count on Hughes to break your homerless streak. At least he doesnt have to face Eric Aybar tonight right?
Unfortunately he’ll always be a HR machine in this park. Maybe instead of a cutter he should’ve worked on a 2-seam.
Or a real change
I’ve given up on thinking he’ll ever develop the feel to throw a change with any real consistency. Seems like he’ll be Burnett like on that front.
Rick Ankiel officially released, if he’d sign a minor league deal might be worth a look for if Swisher has to go on the DL.
I’d rather try out Fukodome. At least he can get on base.
I’d rather go for the defense Ankiel brings in center. Fukodome really shouldn’t see any action outside the corners.
Grrr…couldn’t get the run in.
Sac fly. OK.
My dream scenario for Granderson would be to trade him in the offseason for Madison Bumgarner, they’d never do it though.
Wasn’t Robin Yount a CF when he won his second MVP?
I think you may be right. I was thinking Lynn, Puckett & Hamilton.
Should have remembered Lynn.
I can’t believe I forgot Griffey.
Nice shot.
Girardi to Martin: “Nice shot. You get tomorrow off.”
I’m telling you if you look at the walk, power, and BABIP numbers, he’s worth re-signing on a 1 or 2 year deal.
Yes, at the right price. Last year, he was primed for a big multiyear deal. If he can’t get that now, it ay actually work out in the Yankees’ favor.
I’d give him somewhere between 12 and 16 million for 2 years. 12 would be a slight decrease per year from what he’s getting now and 16 would be a slight increase, so 13 or 14 would probably be just right. I think Romine needs most of next year in AAA after his back injury and none of the free agent options are upgrades.
I think he’s still a decent bridge ’till one of the young catchers are MLB ready. It would be nice if Romine could be the backup next year.
He lost so much time this year that I would rather have him hitting everyday in AAA. He was way over matched last year when he was called up and he still has a long way to go with the bat, getting one start every 4 or 5 games isn’t going to do him any favors.
Looks like the Brewers didn’t get back close to what they gave up for Greinke. They really need to re-sign Marcum now after trading Lawrie for him.
Yeah, so many teams were in on him that it’s a wonder the price wasn’t higher. All AA guys, so not close to being MLB ready.
I figured he’d go to Texas. I wonder if they’ll overpay for Johnson now to try and counter the Angels rotation.
I can’t believe anyone would trade to get him. The injury risk is astronomical.
That’s what would scare me off, but he is the biggest difference maker left on the trade market. When healthy he has all the ability to be the best pitcher in baseball.
Holy Cow, Chris, the root of Milwaukee blues.
hey, fellas.
I like what I’m seeing from Phil, from a fuzzy, long-term, hopeful perspective. He has been decidedly aggressive, even though the three homers support your basic premise, Chris, but they are evidence of his knocking at the door.
He has used a very nice couple of changeups (don’t tell me one cannot learn a new pitch). He has also shown the focus in high-leverage batters to become quite fine in his fb placement.
Flash explained his view that a good two-seam would be very helpful to him. Of course and absolutely, it must be difficult for him – but there’s another change, serving the same purpose.
And I’ll wager he can eventually figure where the cutter can go, even if it’s not Mo quality.
I don[‘t think he’ll ever stop giving up too many homers.
granted, it is a serious weakness, and I could live with that argument for trading Phil. But, I am saying I see plenty glimmers that when he can develop his pitches some, fine tune his approach to hitters, he will find solutions to the strike-2 dilemma, and may yet be less reliant on the popup.
Well he’s a free agent after next season so the Yankees have a real dilemma on their hands. Do they value him as the pitcher they hope he can become, or the pitcher that he is. Unless he just goes crazy next season I don’t see any real reason to commit 4+ years to him on a new contract. If I was him I’d want to leave anyway, get to the NL and a smaller park.
I don’t either. He simply doesn’t generate enough groundballs, he lacks any real natural sink on his fastball. He’ll likely always be a 35% groundball guy, which in Yankee Stadium equals home runs.
He needs to just leave the cutter alone. Cutters thrown in abundance like he was doing tend to lower velocity because of the difference in how it’s thrown compared to a 4-seam.
No one said he can’t learn a new pitch, a change however is the hardest pitch to learn. He’ll likely never be able to make it much more than a show me pitch. Which is fine because that’s all it needs to be if his 4-seam has good velocity, and his curve is getting swings and misses.
If I was his pitching coach I would have suggested a splitter to him a long time ago. It’s more of a strikeout pitch, still gets batters off the fastball, requires less touch, generates more groundballs, and can be taught and applied almost on the same day. I think adding a splitter to his repertoire could completely transform his ability to put batters away.
Garcia could be the perfect teacher for that.
Kuroda uses it more like Phil would at this point. Garcia really throws, and always has thrown, more of a forkball. Which really is a slower pitch and generates less swings and misses. I’d prefer a straight split, or split change like Lincecum, with designs for swings and misses.
he should have the cutter as an additional weapon. I don’t suggest consistent reliance. The whole “no cutter” bandwagon is a strange group indictment.
But, oh yeah, splitter seems perfect for him. I have to read a Fangraphs interview (ref. RAB, today), in which Mike explains that Phil said his stride was changed by the hamstring injury in ’08.
But I recognize his current “bear-like” delivery seems conducive to 4 seam, slider and cutter, rather than the change, two seam. The splitter? I dunno. Only by watching Hiroki, and maybe Freddie, I’ve recognized the right hand break, and whether Phil can do that wrist move, I dunno.
It’s actually a smart move to get rid of the cut in his case. Phil relies on a pure 4-seam fastball, he needs as much lift and velocity on it as he can get. Throw a cut and 4 seamer are quite a bit different, because of this going back and forth can cause you to lose feel for how the 4-seam should be thrown. This can cause you to lose velocity and movement. With the velocity he can generate Phil is perfectly fine goingh 4-seam, curve, split or change. Adding a 2-seam throw on occasion makes much more sense for him than a cutter. That’s not to say no starter should throw a cut, it just isn’t the right pitch for him.
The key to the split is limited wrist movement, you don’t want a snap in the wrist. You want it to stay really firm, this can actually be the tip to the batter on occasion.
interesting, Chris. I’ll enjoy to re-read after the game. I meant to stay silent, for it takes me a long time to compose these posts. I’ll have to watch the encore for innings 7 – 9 just to catch up on some context, and more than a few pitches.
I see you addressed it just above, Chris: Freddie’s straight splitter. Probably be perfect for Phil to learn, and you’re right, Phil, about Freddie teaching it.
It’s funny about the cutter. Mo is so open to explaining it, yet Phil and now Lester are cases for cutter disasters.
I guess that means Soriano gets the night off.
OPEN UP THE SALAMI SHOP AND GET THE RYE BREAD AND MUSTARD GRANDMA, IT’S GRAND SALAMI TIME!
I prefer mayo, and that better be Genoa Salami.
You’re making me hungry! LOL
Now we get to find out if Eppley’s gotten over his Cory Wade disease.
Yankees win the ballgame. 10-3 over the Red Sux!
Wow! A less than 3 hour game.
Pretty snappy for Yanks-Sox.
Somewhere, Joe West is dancing
All in all, a rather nice outing by Hughes. Chat y’all tomorrow.