Game 82: The Red Sox
Hiroki Kuroda and Josh Beckett square up for the first game of this four game Red Sox series. Here is the lineup courtesy of Chad Jennings.
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Nick Swisher RF
Raul Ibanez LF
Eric Chavez 3B
Russell Martin C
The Sox are a depleted team right now, missing Pedroia, Middlebrooks, Ellsbury, Crawford, and obviously Youkilis. We’ll miss out on plenty of Red Sox to hate, but if the Yankees can take advantage this weekend, they can create quite a distance in the standings.
The game starts at 7:05 pm EST on YES. Go Yankees!
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Well, the Yankees really need to win 3 of these games.
By the way, Costas & Smoltz are on MLBN.
I know he has plenty of years left on the deal to turn it around but that Crawford contract looks like one of the worst in baseball history.
It might have been an overpay even if he had been the same player he was in Tampa. His skills don’t age well, and he’s never been a high OBP guy.
It probably would have simply based on Fenway. Not only does their LF largely take away his defensive contributions to the team, but his swing isn’t meant to hit balls over the monster and his price jumped because of the power he showed that last year.
I still would’ve liked to have seen a healthy Crawford roaming LF in Yankee Stadium and hitting into the short porch.
Yes, he might have done better with the Yankees. But can’t say I’m disappointed with how it worked out.
Yeah I agree. We don’t get stuck with a huge contract and they finally do! No if only Gonzalez can tank for the next 6 years!
I expected Gonzalez to continue to be great. I’m shocked at the year he’s having.
I think he’s hurt, I’ve heard mention of a shoulder problem which would make sense.
Its only been a year and a half. I cant imagine how a guy that could could fall off that much…good thing though
All right, nice way to start the game, but if they let Beckett off the hook, it’s going to hurt.
Theres very few things I hate as much as the Red Sox…a sweep would be beautful to kick them while theyre down. I expect they wont be this vulnerable later when Middlebrooks, Pedroia, and Ellsbury return. Oh and uhh Crawford…yeah
Sweep would be great, but even a split is getting the job done.
Cano….Grand Slam damnit!!! please #toomanyhomers
Oh, blow those RISP woes away.
Beckett isnt settled in. Gotta make this count. Come on big inning here get into that bullpen early on this 4 game set.
Wow, crowd is booing.
I would too if the Yankees were managed by Valentine.
For some reason Becket is only good in old number years.
Those old number years do me good as well haha, 91 BC, that’s my favorite.
Yeah. I read a funny article once comparing Beckett’s career to the Star Trek movies, only every other one being good.
I wanted Robbie to blow it ovah the Monsta -
but I’ll settle for dancing on Josh’s grave
Man I haven’t seen Beckett look this lost in a while.
I’m really enjoying it.
Yeah I’ve never liked Beckett as a person, he’s always come across as a huge ass. Even with the Marlins I thought he was a douche. I read an article once where he was being interviewed after a game and half way through just blurts out “I have a huge dick”, then looks at a teammate and says “it’s even bigger than his”. Just a weird and douchey thing to say for no reason.
He should have to prove it. On national television.
And Beckett’s lucky Swisher’s line drive was at someone.
Looked like Swisher let it get in on his hands a little too much, from the slowmo they showed.
His fastball looks like it has no life on it at all.
Martin needs to get some hits or they may rename slumps after him.
He must be hurt or something. He’s too talented to be this bad. I have no idea what we’re going to do at C next year, with M.Montero and Yadier locked up, Romine losing a ton of development time, and Martin struggling like this.
He WAS too talented to be this bad. Just glad hes doing it in a walk year and the Yankees can resign him on the cheap. But hes caught an ass ton of games in LA when Torre was managing and has had a few concerning injuries
He’s still got the talent I just don’t think his body is holding up well, there’s a difference in losingh ability and not being able to use it because your body is breaking down. The hip injury is what concered me the most in LA, but with us it seems to be the back that’s going out.
The body is all connected. Losing the talent body breaking down, whatever it is he is totally falling off. Backup catcher at the moment. Defensively, offensively hes just not the same
Yeah he’s falling off I just don’t think it’s fair to say he isn’t talented anymore. If he could repeat last year on offense and defense I’d take that from a catcher every year. Power and above average defense behind the plate isn’t easy to find.
I agree but the way his body is breaking down I doubt he will ever be healthy enough to provide that. Hes not young at 30, hes old at 30
Hard to argue with that no doubt. I just really don’t want Romine or Cervelli starting from the start of the year next season.
Luke Scott’s like 0-39.
I wonder what the record is for a non-pitcher. I think for a pitcher it’s 0 for 70 over a full season.
That’s a good question, no way a manager would let a regular player go 0-70 haha. You’d have to be sent down or cut before that.
As a pitcher even you’d be upset with something like that.
Fabulous. Wasted no RISP, and put up a big number.
Damn, this team really needs HRs to score runs.
Arite come on lets not turn this into a barn burner here. I want a nice relaxing easy win over the Sawwxx
Kuroda may bne one of the best in ERA but his FIP suggests he is nowhere near one of the best pitchers in baseball.
Martin’s defense hasnt exactly been steller this year either
I’d still bring him back on another 1 year deal, he’s played his way out of a big multi year deal from someone else I think.
Yeah, I would take a flyer on him, if his bad half year has brought the price down to reasonable. But then, a lot of clubs would, too, which might bring the price back up a bit.
Yeah but if he’s getting a bunch of 1 and 2 year deals he stay based on loyalty. He’s already taken less money to come here once.
That would be good.
He only deseves 1 or 2 year deals based on performance. I would not give him 8 million either. He turned down a 3 year deal for 8 million per at the start of the season. Sorry bud thats the risk you took. You gambled and lost.
I’d certainly rather have Martin back than combo Romine and Cervelli.
Not if it means 10 million a year for 2 or more years. Id rather Pierzinsky
I doubt anyones giving him that kind of money unless he has a killer second half, at which point he’d have earned it. He only got 5 million for 1 year when he came here.
I haven’t seen Lackey’s phiranna face in a while haha, keep it off TV please YES.
Damn this game got ugly fast.
Well, it IS Yankees-Red Sox.
Christ I hate ortiz. What a shit head. Ban everyone who has ever done PEDs on a first time offense huh? Yeah that was all good when the Red Sox docs were leading the investigation but when you get busted years later you say it was Dominican Milk Shakes? Jerkoff
Well what he was saying was lifetime ban going forward, not for stuff they find out from the past. He basically said we know what we know now and now we’re testing, so starting now no tolerance.
Ortiz was technically never caught, he was just linked to the same list Alex was on from before there was testing.
Yeah he is as innocent as ARod, and Rocket, and Bonds, and Biggio, and the list goes on.
I dont care about players doing roids. Its the era of baseball I grew up in but I do believe enough players were doing them that it was all evened out. Dont go pointing fingers when your doing the same shit though.
Biggio? When was little Biggio linked to steroids? If you mean Bagwell he’s never even been linked to steroids, they just won’t let him in the hall because he was friends and teammates wiith Caminetti. In fact Bagwell’s career arch shows nothing suspicous at all.
Bagwell I meant. And if you include minor leauges when he all of a sudden beefed up to Herculean levels compared to what he was before I mean no not officially but hey not many guys have been officially caught. Its all circumstantial.
I just don’t run around pointing fingers. I personally encourage steroid use in all sports, I think team doctors should be the one injecting and getting them so they get clean stuff. I think in another 50-100 years we’ll all be doing some kind of steroid just to make us better than weak, normal, human beings. But as it stands now accusing someone of steroids is a career killer and that’s not fair. To keep Bagwell out of the hall is ridiculous on a level that it makes the whole hall a joke. Clearly keeping players of color out of the game inflated white players numbers for years, but we don’t ban marginal white HOFers who played before the barrier was broken.
Holy Babe Ruth! A brand new game, and we need to beat them again, and I thought that was just wunnerful…
I know come onnnn cant get anyone out. This is embarrassing. I hate this
Over/Under: Game time 4hrs 30 mins. I guess I’ll go over.
I love having Chavez on the bench. He can still pick it with the best of them and he fits our team need perfectly.
And he knows and relishes his role as a “backup” 3rd baseman. Hes more like a caddy than a backup. I would like them to use him more often to be honest. A lot more
Can’t use him too much. Too prone to injury.
Great minds and what not.
I wouldn’t say that, he’s too injury prone to run out their everyday. Getting plenty of rests between outings is perfect for him at this stage, you’ll wear him down and break him otherwise.
I think its important to use Chavez more mainly to save ARod’s legs which is where he draws his power. Especially since the Yankees will need those legs…for 6 more years…wow
Alex hits worse at DH than he does 3B and he’s good at it, no reason to break down Chavez while also getting less production from Alex.
Well hes going to have to learn how to hit better at DH. I cant imagine the Yankees will still be fielding a 40, 41, and 42 year old ARod in the hot corner
All players tend to hit worse at DH, they’ve done some pretty extensive studies on it to prove the majority of players who collect DH ABs have worse numbers than when they are in the field.
I honestly don’t care about Alex at 40, 41, 42, he’s probably going to be bad no matter what at that point. I’d be happy if he just does well until that point, I’d like to see the power surge up in the second half though.
I’m not handling this.
Kuroda is not a true #2 starter.
‘Way to erase the lead, chokeartist.
‘Know what annoys me the most about the Red Sox?
The Red Sox are in the Yanks’ heads every #@$%ing year including ones where the Red Sox are 77-84 win slop like this one.
Tonight is a perfect example. 5-0 lead erased the next inning cuz the Yanks crap their pants with Kuroda being the lead crapper.
I discount his last three starts for this stunt he pulled (which it is.)
It does seem that no matter what these two teams will always play each other tough
It’s clearly because they’re scared, not that both clubs are talented though, clearly.
Yanks won the 1st 2 games. One was after trailing by 9.
RBI for Rodriguez. We need more of those.
That’s 4 runs scored without a hit!
Cano, short for Cannon
aw, the song is over?
I wanted to keep dancing
Oh and TOChris…i still am a bit peeved at you for allowed me to get my hopes up about the Montero trade. I was all negative about it immediately after and then you were so ecstatic about the trade I started coming around to the idea. Got my hopes up, I pictured a right handed 23 year old CC Sabathia. Jose Campos would develop into one of the top pitching prospects in baseball. The Yankees need a findamental rethinking about how they evaluate/develop pitching
So you are one of the people who have already decided what that trade will be huh? We’ve already lost the deal despite the fact that Montero has an OPS under .660?
The panic over Campos is ridiculous, it’s an elbow, all pitchers have elbow pain. Most now almost have to have TJ before they make it to the majors as a right of passage it seems. Pineda’s is more worrying but his rotator cuff wasn’t touched which is the career killer, as long as he rehabs hard and stays in shape before he can start rehabbing he’ll be fine. I’m tired of sayingh this but Schilling had the exact same surgery early on in his career and actually came back throwing harder.
I loved the trade, too, and you’re right about the pitching values we gained. Montero is like Posada, too, in that he hits only when he’s trying to catch.
Its not over for a while but its not looking good. Shoulder injuries are much more worrisome than elbow injuries. While Montero is struggling, you could also say hes learning how to play in the bigs. Pineda and Campos are losing development time. Just sets the clock back for potential payoff for that trade and its god damn frustrating. Its been what over 40 years since the Yankees ever had a young Ace that they developed?
yeah, that’s all unfortunate, and negative post-trade, so we can’t be happy with it. Breaks, though, cannot be definitively anticipated, except maybe with the close observance of knowing what the pitcher’s trying to do, and hearing of some arm complaints.
Just seems so much worse given that the Yankees pitching depth is being tested and Pineda is nursing a shoulder injury which who knows if he will ever be the same again. Also the Yankees have a black hole at catcher offensively and Montero would have been able to help there too.
but that was the big flaw, the reason they had to exchange him. Sold after a perfect setup September, the best they could hope for. The value of a defensive catcher/blocker/leader makes the offensive value pale in importance.
The Yankees do not seem to agree with you about defense being more important than offense at catcher. Every single catcher they sign or draft seem to be offensive guys who may not stick at the position. In fact how many catchers were more valuable than Jorge during his days? I dont think many.
Or did you mean Montero specifically? I havent seen him behind the plate I dont know how he is
Yeah, I meant Jesus, specifically. The catcher has to cope with every pitch, maybe 160? every game. Extra duty, when you consider the throwout task and the plate-blocking task, not to mention dealing with pitchers under stress.
I dunno about recruiting, guess young defensive catchers probably a) don’t often hit and b) get injured before they get to pro ball. Have to develop position players/hitters into catchers.
I definitely would love to see Hiro right the ship. Don’t eagerly anticipate DJ’s work under pressure, BIG pressure.
I’d be scared if DJ had to pitch this series.
Has DJ debuted yet? I haven’t been able to watch the last week or so.
Nope not yet. Not that iv seen
not this week, but I think he was shaky when he came with the team at the start of the year.
2.2 innings, 4 hits, 1 er, 1 walk
Damn, Beckett suddenly looks sharp.
amazing how the two pitchers have mirrored.
Sox hitters are just being a bunch of copy cats today.
ruddy copy cats
Martin has to be wondering if hes ever going to break free. Feel bad for the guy
2 bunt attempts shows how much this slump is in his head right now.
Russell was a speck early, trying to time that wicked 2 strike curve.
Nice play Cano
Wow! Two games in a row, even if this one wasn’t as hard as Wednesday’s catch, or as vital.
boy, that’s the cruelest pitch, the two seamer inside, for the (Ruddy, ha) batter to foul off his tender person.
I love it. Hope it leaves a big bruise lol
I mean a lot of people talk about what a hitters park the new Yankee stadium is but Fenway has the dimensions of a little league park. It plays up to right and left hand hitters. Theres almost no such thing as a foul ball for lefties or righties.
isn’t the layout (excepting foul ground) pretty close, with a flip of left for right? (plus a well in center, and no lf alley)
Don’t know how it’s gonna go, but this has been double exciting thus far. Interesting, if not satisfying, yet.
Be nice if ARod can turn the power in the second half. And Tex. Really relying on these guys for years to come so lets pick it up
boy, yeah. Then our power from center and second would really shine thru.
Arod, can’t touch him. He’s blessed, or something.
RISP! Let’s turn it on.
Oh man I fell asleep…oh hes still pitching to Swisher huh? Didn’t miss anything did I
Stolen bases. Nice.
Barrel the catcher over please
He blocked the plate you knock him out.
Man, Raul’s sounded so good. Damn, those three would have been nice.
With a $120 million hip, you probably don’t want to do a football play.
Haha good point.
I can’t believe Kuroda stayed in this game long enough to lose it. What was the point?
Double header. I wouldn’t be shocked if he pitched into the 7th inning.
So you throw away a game tonight because you might need someone tomorrow? That’s pretty bad math.
If Mitchell pitches multiple innings tonight, they can always swap him out tomorrow.
DJ inexperience; Kuroda got waylaid, could yet establish a rythm; didn’t want to blow out the bullpen in the 1st game of 4 (yeah, dblheader).
Garcia scares me against these guys. But then again, I expected better from Kuroda tonight.
Last year, I (we all) were scared for the same reasons, but Freddy came thru. Let’s hope he gets the right adrenaline pulses.
Shit, the disappointment, with the fielder fumbling and reaching for it. Ouch, great liner, too.
Throwing off balance, I can’t believe he got the ball to anywhere near 2nd base.
I saw him looking toward second as he grabbed the ball, so he had a good target, and it’s a pretty short throw. (? from 280′ or so to 90′ so maybe 170′, still that was accurate – a key to playing that position.)
That must be funner than shit, playing left field in front of the Monsta – if you have experience with it, and can figure the angles, and throw well.
Like a game of billiards.
yeah. In Litle League, I had a real thing going, picking it up at the fence, and throwing them out at second. What a kick!
There will be Yankee runs scored this inning!
looking good…
Damnit Beckett!! We cant have this guy pitching friday night games. Im trying to head out and hes taking over a minute in between pitches. Now this is where were at
wait for this inning, but we’re onto Miller, 3rd pitcher. (you sure you’re good to go?)
I’m irrationally upset. I can’t even enjoy that triple.
yow! well, at least you are aware.
Since I’m rarely rational, I can enjoy it & be upset at the same time.
Hey, hey, Tex! And a triple!
Is that 3/4 of a Tex message?
I’d say he got almost all of it!
Boy, that perfects the triple!
Gonna see a whole lot of relievers tonight.
Dammit, Swisher, stop overswinging!
He, supported by Kevin Long, considers that his “A” swing, his object to match it with a fat pitch. Wish he could switch to “B” when the situation calls.
Maybe tonite’s frustrations will be washed away by solid risp performance from now on.
Feel a little better now, but I refuse to be happy unless Martin gets a hit, too.
You’re doomed Professor. Doomed I say.
I been doomed since I first learned what the word meant.
Sheesh, even Luke Scott got a HR tonight.
There are 269 players that I would have rather seen hit a homerun tonight.
Can you please list them?
which/whom are they? or is it that you liked have an impotent Luke Scott in that lineup?
Ok, maybe 268. Aside from AJ Pierzinski, I have the most deep seeded hatred for Scott. Doesn’t help that he’s playing for the Rays either. The guy says racist things about his teammates and is outspoken about his hatred for Obama. I’m not too political, but with the racist things he says, pretty obvious why he hates Obama.
He’s a pig.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/quote-of-the-day-luke-scott/
Didn’t see that one, he’s such a classy guy.
Damn, doesn’t anyone know the meaning of a shut down inning and how to execute it.
Every year Logan seems to go through a stretch where we have to pinch our noses shut.
I can’t take this.
gotta stand worry and frustration
to feel real elation
I’d prefer a constant pleasant buzz.
Once again Jeter makes a great “heads up” play.
What are they talking about range? Beautiful save and play by the Jeter!
Yeah, that was a really good play by Jeter. There were a bunch of ways to screw it up and he didn’t.
Jeter’s never been the best fielding & range SS, but he always makes the smart play.
He still gets a pass for the 2001 shovel play. Greatest thing I ever saw on a baseball field.
amen. And here, I’d say the smarts are displayed as “cool under fire” as he managed the fade-by throw as his momentum was oblique (?) to the base.
PHEW!!
The WE chart on this game will be interesting.
Probably best expressed as a circle.
Wow. That A-Rod is some singles machine.
Robertson looking good.
Damn. You jinxed him. Now Girardi asks Sori for that old 4 out save trick. By the way, I was thinking that very same thing.
I thought of that when I was typing, but couldn’t stop myself.
I struck me so, too. I guess I should learn, because I’m always saying that.
Interesting: Joe is showing David that avoiding a walk is really important.
Fenway moths are out.
They’re trying to kill me.
afraid you’ll get your eyes crossed, as your attention flits after them?
I meant the Yankees, not the moths.
I’d love to see some All State runs in honor of the All Star game.
That must have been Swisher’s C swing.
An A pitch defeating a confused swing.
Those are fast moths, or is it a bug convocation?
Please don’t mention bugs and Yankees in the same sentence. I still have nightmares of the gnats.
yeah, nasty circumstance which could not be ignored.
That’s interesting, Wise in for Swish.
string of lefties?
Nope. Maybe he has a hopefully minor injury.
Like his pride, if he heard your C swing crack.
Untuck!
Soriano did it quickly. Good. I don’t know if I could have survived a rally.
Ciao, all.
I love come from behind wins. But then again I love wins when the lead from the 1st inning on.
Ahhh, to relax in comfort! For this night, we showed ‘em.
Chat y’all tomorrow.
Solid W right there…looks like a missed a great chat. Hope to join you guys and gays next time!