Betances and Banuelos won’t make rotation

In a report that should come as little surprise, Mark Fiensand of the Daily News has added a bit of clarity to questions regarding the Yankee rotation. Killer B prospects Dellin Betances and Manny Banelos aren’t in the mix or the starting rotation. He writes:
“Betances and Banuelos aren’t earning spots in the rotation out of spring training,” Cashman said. “They’re going to get their first taste of big-league camp, then they’re going to get slotted into Trenton. They have no chance to make this team.”
There’s good reason for this. Even if both pitchers wowed the Yanks, there’s simply no way to make either one part of the big league club while managing their innings for this season. Dellin Betances’ previous innings high was 121.2 in 2008, while Manny Banuelos reached 109 innings in 2009. Teams don’t like to increase a pitchers innings by more than 30-40 per year for young starters as they climb the ladder, so neither would be on track for the 175+ inning workload of a MLB starter. Further, the Yanks always expect to play October baseball, and those innings count as well.
If any of our readers are disappointed by this news, don’t be. The minors are there to give players a low pressure environment to hone their craft. The more batters faced, the better. Dellin still needs to work on holding runners on base, and a weakness in your game that obvious will be exposed at the major league level early and often. Banuelos has amassed just 215 IP in his 3 full seasons with the organization, and teams like to have a pitcher get more innings under their belt before getting the call. For example, Phil Hughes had 330 IP in the minors while Andy Pettitte had a whopping 608 IP in the minors. Joba Chamberlain had just 88.1 innings under his belt in the Yankee farm system (though it should be noted he had 208 IP in college). Once upon a time, 500 minor league innings was something of a guideline, but I’m not sure that’s a number teams adhere to anymore. In any case, don’t be disappointed, its a good thing for the players development, and therefore a good thing for the organization long term.
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Well said, Steve. A lot of fans will see these two hyped kids as logical fits for the 4-5 slot in the rotation. In reality, if there is any future for them in pinstripes, they need to go through the process. Let’s just hope the process is a bit more refined this go around.
Yeah, the last thing we need to see is a 300 pound Manny Banelos waddle into the 2015 Spring Training camp coming off two bad seasons :wink:
Can you imagine how fat he’d be at 5’10, 300 pounds? At least Joba is like 6-3, take away those 4 or 5 inches and you’d have a little sausage walking around with a glove and hat on haha.
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Cool pic. Hopefully Joe G likes what he sees. Betances’s health record is the only thing really depressing his prospect star.
How Much longer will Betances throw with the team?
I would imagine that they’ll see some limited action once ST games get underway in March, then head to EST.
I think the more important question this year (at least to me) is what is the plan with Brackman?
I assume with the fact that he is on a major league deal and has to stick by next season is really speeding up a drawn out process to get him to the bigs. He needs to end up with some big league experience this year in one role or the other but I’d be curious as to his innings limit and what would happen if he just blew away the world in ST.
Personally I think he should start the year in Scranton and at some point in the middle of the year (or in Sept) bring him up for at least some bullpen action to let him get a big league feel.
The Yanks feel he can be a reliever in the bigs right now, but still needs to refine his change up to be a starter. If the change comes along in AAA this year, I have no doubt he’ll get an opportunity in this rotation at some point.
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