Over at Fangraphs, Dave Cameron weighs in on the “AJ Burnett in Game 4″ question.  This is an issue that gets more play and interest than I would deem reasonable.  I haven’t read a tenth of the hand-wringing over the Phillies’ decision to run with Blanton in Game 4 of the NLCS, but maybe I’m not looking in the right places.   Since this is the Yankees, I suppose it’s to be expected.  Regardless, rather than have Burnett start Game 4 Cameron proposes two ideas.  The first is the “bullpen” game.  Cameron says:

You could piece together a complete game using Ivan NovaBoone LoganJoba ChamberlainRoyce RingDavid Robertson, Kerry Wood, and Mariano Rivera, splitting up the innings so that no one throws more than 30-40 pitches and you get as many platoon advantages as you can. If the early game relievers get bombed and the game gets out of hand, you can just use Sergio Mitre to soak up the end-game innings and save your setup guys for Game 5.

Yikes.  Well for one, Ivan Nova and Royce Ring aren’t on the playoff roster.  As such, it’s going to be very difficult to get them game action.  Here is the list of possible relievers: Mitre, Moseley, Logan, Chamberlain, Robertson, Wood and Rivera.  Aside from that, there are serious obstacles to the success of the bullpen game.  Cameron recognizes at least one of them:

Yes, you’d end up working your bullpen pretty hard and wouldn’t be in the best of shape for Game 5, but you have Sabathia going the next day and can expect him to pitch at least six innings and hope for seven or eight.

Here is a list of questions I have about this idea.  One, if the idea of having the bullpen pitch the game is to maximize platoon advantages, wouldn’t this advantage be reduced by having each reliever face more than 3 batters (i.e. pitch more than one inning)?  In other words, if relievers pitch multiple innings, they’re likely to face batters from both sides of the plate.  Secondly, if each good reliever is only going to pitch an inning and you’re going to attempt to maximize platoon advantage, this would leave 4 innings for Mitre and Moseley, who are at least of the same talent level as Burnett if not worse.  Why not just put Burnett on a short leash?  Thirdly, if you consider Mitre and Moseley to be a superior talent level to Burnett, why not have one of them start the game?  Fourthly, is burning the bullpen really a great idea knowing that Sabathia may not pitch a complete game the following afternoon? Finally, is Game 4 of the ALCS the best time to try out this idea?

Altogether, one could probably make the case that having the bullpen start a game has merits.  Right now, with this crew, with the high likelihood of important innings pitched by Mitre and Moseley, with the specter of a day game the following day, it’s probably not the time to try it out.  But that’s not even the worst of it. The main problem is Option 2.  Take it away, Dave:

This essentially boils down to match-ups and attempting to leverage the most winnable games. With Cliff Lee going tonight, the Yankees are going to be underdogs no matter who takes the hill. They could have chosen to start Burnett against Lee in Game 3, lowering their chances of winning a game where they are already likely to lose, and then using Pettitte in Game 4. Rather than having a disadvantage on the mound in both Game 3 and Game 4, they could have consolidated their problems in tonight’s game in order to increase their odds of winning tomorrow’s.

The problem with this strategy is that the Game 3 starter is then on track to start Game 7, and they clearly don’t want Burnett pitching twice in the ALCS. They’d have to bring Pettitte back on short rest for Game 7, which is still not a great option. However, with three days off after the ALCS ends before the start of the World Series, they’d theoretically have all hands on deck for that final game. Sabathia could be available for a couple of innings, as it would be his normal throw day, and they could simply ask Pettitte to throw fewer pitchers to compensate for the reduced rest.

The problem with this strategy is not that Burnett would be on track to start Game 7.  The problem with this strategy is that punting a playoff game because the opposing pitcher is really good is a bad idea.  Option 2 is merely a regurgitation of the “the Yankees should punt Game 3″ line of thinking.  Do we really need to rehash why this is a bad idea?  Apparently so.  Here’s what I’ve come up with: Cliff Lee is not unbeatable; Andy Pettitte is a good pitcher; the Yankees have a good offense; the Yankees have a great bullpen; if Pettitte keeps the team close and the Yankees grind out a run or two, this could very well be a game decided in the later innings.  I’m sure I’m missing more.  The wider point though is that a Game 3 loss for the Yankees is not a fait accompli. Treating it such, and managing the roster accordingly, is unwise.

I have a great deal of respect for the work done at Fangraphs and the work done by Dave Cameron.  Frankly, though, I’m surprised to a writer and thinker of his caliber deal in this line of reasoning.  Cameron concludes his piece in this manner:

I’m not sure that either of these options are clearly better than keeping everyone on their normal workloads and starting Burnett tomorrow night, but there are arguments to be made for considering them. If Burnett blows up and the Rangers (sic) find themselves down 3-1 on Wednesday, expect that decision to be the one that get second guessed all winter.

If the Yankees lose to Lee and if Burnett loses to the equally-bad Tommy Hunter (who apparently doesn’t merit a mention), the decision may indeed get second-guessed all winter.  However, it won’t be because the team failed to run with either of Cameron’s two options.  Fairly or unfairly, it will be about the reliance on Vazquez and Burnett and the failure to acquire another starting pitcher in July or August.  Lee could dominate the Yankees in Game 3 and Burnett could blow up in Game 4, and the Yankees could find themselves in a huge hole.  But burning out the bullpen and giving important innings to Mitre and Moseley, or simply punting Game 3, is not the way to go.

 

6 Responses to Bad ideas abound

  1. Ben Vinutti says:

    Thank you for this moment of clarity and sanity in the NYY Blogosphere of Lunacy.

    “Why not just put Burnett on a short leash?”

    I am sure this is in fact the NYY plan and it makes the most sense.

    GOOOOOO YANKEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Joe G says:

    I hope AJ is reading all these press clips, cause if he has the slightest bit of pride in himserlf, he’ll bring it Tuesday.

    Hey at least one guy has faith in AJ….anyone see Peter Gammon’s twitter post? lol

    • Damian says:

      I too hope AJ will bring it on Tuesday. But your comment made me wonder about something that probably all sports fans wonder from time to time, and definitely all Yankee fans have wondered every fifth day during the Burnett era: what exactly is the difference between Good AJ and Bad AJ? I tend to doubt that lack of fire or motivation has much to do with the outcome. [Not that you said his bad days are due to lack of motivation.] It’s possible that on the days he doesn’t have any stuff, it’s at least partly due to an indifferent attitude or a failure to really focus on the game, but I doubt that. I don’t have any better explanation for it, but I’ll stick with no explanation than a bad one.

      It just seems to me that AJ’s good stuff has a life of its own–that it shows up when it wants to and it stays home when it wants to. I just don’t know how to explain it. Like you say, though, hopefully it’s with him on Tuesday.

      • Joe G says:

        I agree with what you said Damian. Pitching is hard, some days a guy just might not have it. You cant be perfect all the time. It’s why I can’t get upset at a pitcher just for one bad game. But I have heard rumors in the past that his struggles at times are do to lack of focus. So I would hope he’s focused in come tuesday.

  3. bg90027 says:

    Trying to get 9 IP out of the bullpen is a terrible idea for all of the ideas you mentioned. I could almost be persuaded to start AJ against Lee and not view it as punting the game. My rationale would be that while there is a strong chance that AJ blows up and would lose in a huge fashion, there is also some chance (arguably greater than with Pettite) that AJ could match him zeros for zeros if that were what was needed to win. I don’t think we’d want Burnett lined up for game 7 though so I think they had to go with Pettitte here and trust the offense to do something against Lee or get to the bullpen.

  4. Slugger27 says:

    another awful post by dave…. fangraphs has become almost unreadable lately

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