Steve S. took a long-form look at the breakdown of the Cliff Lee saga earlier this morning.  To me, there are five huge unanswered questions that remain about this deal.

1. Who leaked the information to Joel Sherman? The Yankees were apparently intent on striking quickly and making a big offer to the Mariners, snagging Lee before other teams had a chance to react.  This is precisely what they did when they acquired Javier Vazquez from the Braves.  Reporters knew that a deal had been completed before they knew the players involved.  This time, the Yankees were a bit further away from consummating the deal when the information was leaked to Sherman.  Did the Yankees think that they were further along than they were?  Were they overconfident?  Worse, did the Mariners lead them to think they were further along than they were?   This leads to a second, bigger question.

2. Did the Mariners operate in bad faith? Hard to see how they didn’t. All indications seem to be that they had an agreement in principle with the Yankees and led the Yankees to believe that they deal was finished apart from physicals.  They then took that offer, shopped it to the Rangers and demanded Smoak. Joel Sherman and George King of the New York Post broke down the saga this morning and it’s worth checking out, especially if you’re interested in the backstory and the mechanics of the deal.  This quote in particular, which I saw on Jamal G’s Twitter this morning, is intriguing:

A trade is not complete until all paperwork is finalized and approved by the Commissioners Office. However, baseball — like many businesses — is based on relationships and trusting the word of other people, and that is why the Yanks are so irate about how this negotiation transpired.

“I don’t think 30 general managers would agree that what the Mariners did was real ethical,” another Yankees official said.

Other club officials also were irked about the Mariners’ actions. “It’s disappointing to hear that Jack shopped that around, that’s not right,” an executive from a team not directly involved in this trade said. “You don’t do that with any team and you don’t do it with the Yankees, because [GM Brian] Cashman will drop you in a heartbeat. You don’t use the Yankees because they never forget.” [emphasis added]

It’s fairly awesome to hear others talk about Cashman like that.  He does not forgive, and he does not forget.  All of that said, it seems pretty unequivocal that the Mariners’ negotiations were in bad faith.  It’s not the end of the world, but it’s hard to blame the Yankees’ officials for being irritated with Seattle.  Bad faith negotiations are ugly.

3. What about Jesus Montero? Has the organization given up on him as a catcher long-term, or was this simply them taking advantage of an opportunity to lock up the AL East?

4. Why did Cashman change his modus operandi? Let’s see: he refused to deal Hughes and prospects for Johan Santana.  He refused to deal prospects for CC Sabathia when he was on the Indians, and refused to deal prospects for Lee on two separate occasions: when he was with the Indians and when he was with the Phillies. He was willing to deal Montero for Halladay, but only in a 1 for 1 swap.  So why would he deal the organization’s best hitting prospect and two other prospects now, with a rotation full of healthy starters, when the team was in first place, and when Cliff Lee was merely months away from free agency? Is it related to their diminishing valuation of Montero?

5. Will Cashman attempt to acquire another starting pitcher? Obviously he isn’t completely satisfied with the staff and was willing to bring on another frontline pitcher and deal Vazquez at a later time.  Was this a one-off deal, or will Cashman continue to monitor the starting pitcher trade market?  My indication is that he will now stick with Sabathia-Burnett-Pettitte-Vazquez-Hughes.

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7 Responses to Questions Linger About Failed Lee Deal

  1. leftylarry says:

    Information is often leaked by either side to suit their own needs.

    Texas has every right to shop their players around to the last minute.I don’t think they ever said, “DONE” to Cashman.

    Yankees have always pushed the idea that Montero is a CATCHER because there’s no downside to doing that.It creates more trade value and it’s an easy position switch to 1st base or DH.I think Romine and the 2 kids behind him are Yankee catchers of the future.Cervelli won’t hit enough and Montero won’t defend enough and help his staff but why say so publicly.

    Yankees are looking at replacing Pettitte with Lee long term and though they could use another shutdown playoff pitcher like Lee to help win this season and could then acquire Werth also with Vasquez, I believe the deal was about getting the 2 free agents they want next year to NY a half season early, with these MATURE prospects as bait, while replacing them in next years loaded draft.
    If they sign Lee & Werth as free agents, they lose their top 2 draft picks and get zilch for Vasquez, who they will NOT offer arbitration.
    Cashman would look a lot better this way (if they win a WS this season) than after viewing the Vasquez/Granderson deals if they finish 3rd.
    For Cashman it’s a no-brainer but I wouldn’t look at it as giving up on Montero.More about the clever media savvy Cashman saying, “Shit, Sox hung in, Rays look playoff tough, Burnett looks iffy, Hughes on an innings limit and Javvy not a guy I want starting a playoff game, if we finish 3rd (possible) giving up Austin JAckson , Dunn, Coke Vizcaino etc and all I have is Granderson who isn’t as good a CF’er as Gardner makes me look pretty foolish.

    • Stephen R. says:

      Yankees officials said that there was an agreement in place, pending physicals. Neither side appears to dispute that. I don’t begrudge the Mariners’ attempt to get the best players possible – it’s their duty and obligation – but it appears they were deceptive and misleading.

  2. canadien tuxedo says:

    Actually the cashman was willing to trade jesus for halladay this offseason

  3. DaveinMD says:

    I think this was about our core being older and trying to lock up a title with adding the best pitcher in baseball. It was a rare opportunity. Also, we are deep at catcher organizationally, especially with Romine’s jump this year.

  4. Mark D. says:

    It was more of a game of keep away for the Yankees as they didn’t want to have to face Lee if they had to go through the Rays.

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