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I truly don’t understand passing up arbitration to Johnny Damon. One year of Damon at $16M seems like a fair deal given that he’d either be settling for one year instead of three or giving us draft picks…
My guess is the Yankees see Damon’s value as far less than arbitration would cost and will wait to see where he fits, what kind of offers he has, and, more generally, what the market looks like this year. The economy remains poor; few teams seem likely to offer him the years/money Boras wants. Arbitration, by costing a team its first-round pick, would have depressed the market for Damon even more, making it more probable the Yankees would get stuck for the arbitration tab. So they might yet get him back for a lot less than $16 million for 2010 — if they want him.
I guess I just don’t see the harm in spending $16M for one year of Damon to keep the LF spot warm for whatever the plan is for next year.
Then again, at this time last year I was beside myself with rage that the Yanks didn’t offer Abreu arbitration…and that worked out just fine.
As much as I disagree with this move today, I’ll give Cashman the benefit of the doubt that he knows what he’s doing and that he’ll figure out something to make this decision the right (or at least justifiable) one.
Because Damon can’t play LF! Why would you give him a raise in order to be worse on both sides of the ball in 2010 than he was in 2009?
Damon tied a career high with 24 HRs, do you really expect him to hit his career high for a 3rd time? Do you expect him to surpass 24? I don’t see how you can count on him to do that again this year!
Damon already was one of the worst in LF in the league this year and it cost us several games including one in Flordia where he dropped a ball that allowed what would be the winning run to score form 1st with 2 outs. If he catches the ball the inning ends and the Yankees probably win that game.
Everyone wants to talk about his 2 base steal in the playoffs that let the Yankees win against the Phillies but no one mentions that with 2 outs earlier in the game Damon can’t get to a ball hit in front of him with 2 outs that allows RYAN HOWARD to score from 2nd, even his throw to home was to late!
Damon has no arm, he takes bad routes to balls and he drops balls when he is directly under them with no wind! He isn’t worth 16 million period! I wouldn’t sign him for anything more than 1 year 10 million.
If you sign Mike Cameron to a 1 year 6-9 million dollar deal he can play CF and have Melky move to LF or you can have Cameron play LF and let Gardner play CF either way you have an upgraded defensive outfield and Cameron’s 24 HRs replaces Damon’s power in the lineup.
For those of us who like to read meaning into the tiny fragments of actual information available at this point, the decision may have several implications. It might mean the Yankees are trying to limit payroll until they decide whether to make a big splash (Halladay, Holliday, or Lackey). Or it could be a sign that they want to take the outfield in a different direction, with Cameron in center rahter than Damon in left. Or perhaps, based on the market last year, they expect prices to fall — sort of like pre-Christmas sales in a bad economy — and they will secure the player(s) they want at a relative bargain. I think Cashman has a better read on the market than most of us.
Here’s another issue: how much is the additional first-round draft choice that the Yankees might gain if Damon signs with another team worth to them? Let’s say they risk overpaying him $6 million through arbitration. They would be gambling that amount on the possibility that Boras finds a better deal elsewhere and the Yankees pick up a first-round draft choice. That is a pretty expensive gamble, even for the Yankees (and I haven’t even included the luxury tax implications of his contract).
SMART MOVES. DAMON WON’T GET MORE THAN 8-9 MILLION and who can afford Matsui?
I say there’s a great chance both come back at 2/3 of last years pay if they’re lucky.
I hope only Matsui comes back! Damon simply can not play LF anymore!
The funny thing is, now that Damon won’t cost draft picks, I actually think he has a much better chance of getting signed by another team.
I doubt they are lining up to pay him big dollars.Teams will offer 8-9 million TOPS and Yankees can easily match that.
He’s injury prone, old and a mediocre OF’er with arguably the worst arm in baseball.
He fits in Yankee Stadium not many other places in this economic environment.Of course YANks just may not want him back at all.
Keep in mind Matsui is financially meaningful on a global basis.
Why would they match that?
He’s injury prone and less than mediocre in LF with the worst arm in baseball! I don’t want him if he plays the Yankees if he has to go to LF.
They have already shot down the idea of Matsui being better because of that… and I believe them.
Getting a decent defender with a solid LF bat shouldn’t really be that difficult.
$16 mil is way too much for Damon.
Mike Cameron… He can hit 25 HRs and still plays one of the best CFs in all of baseball and has said he is willing to move to the corner outfield spot which makes the team more versatile since you can have Cameron in CF and Melky in LF and also sometimes put Gardner in CF and move Cameron to LF.
The best part about Cameron is he is only going to get 1 year offers and he has said he wants to play for a contender and he shouldn’t cost more than 5-9 million.
Cameron strikes out way to much and will even more in the American league with better pitching. Pass.
Way to not be sensible! I guess Swisher wasn’t at the top of the league in stikeouts this year! Swisher’s Ks are ok because of his power and walks, well Cameron’s are off set by power and stellar D in 2 positions we need upgraded D.
Offense isn’t the most important thing here! Cameron can play top 5 defense in CF or LF which means he upgrades the outfield defense no matter where he plays, he will play for a 1 year contract, he will play for less than 10 million and he will hit over 20 HRs.
He replaces Damon’s power while playing defense that no one else in the free agent market can play! Cameron makes more sense on a 1 year deal than any other option available.
Cameron even at his age is a great defender with a decent bat an a lot of pop! That is exactly what we need! Not to mention his versatility in playing either CF or LF makes the team better because you can throw several different types of lineups at the opponent (which Joe likes) and you can always have either Melky or Gardner as your 4th outfielder off the bench/pinch runner in the case of Brett.
To be so narrow minded as to disregard a great options because of strikeouts doesn’t make sense. He will hit 8th in the lineup his Ks aren’t killing us there.
Yup Cameron’s defense is probably good enough to make up for the loss of offense. He’s a solid option.
Andy is a foregone conclusion. The only other FA I’d like to see signed up is a veteran C or two. Other holes can be filled from within. Trades are a different story and what I think this offseason will be about.
Catchers? Why? Why 2 on top of that?
We have Posada and Cervelli and that is more than a capable offensive and defensive catching 1-2 combo! I also expect Montero to be brought up at some point this year if he stays healthy and even though he can’t play a good catcher he will still play there for a while to get his bat in the lineup. Those 3 options should be more than enough, if we end up needing another catcher it’s because Posada is out for a long time and we won’t win anyway.
Cameron sucks and Yankees would be remiss to bring in another strikeout artist getting very old.Won’t happen.
Well reasoned. He hits well enough and plays excellent defense. He is a solid option in LF.
Larry I can always count on you to bring reason and logic to an argument!
Cameron’s UZR was 10.0 this year and even more impressively (and I think the most important defensive stat for outfielders) his RngR was 14.7 he takes away 14 runs hit in his zone over the average CF in 2009, these numbers become even more of an asset in LF where he has to cover less range and these numbers were good enough to make him number 5 in NL CF defensive ratings.
20+ HRs and that D is more than enough to hit 8th and take away runs…
Think about it, Johnny hit .282 with 24 HRs and 98 Ks… Cameron hit .250 with 24 HRs and 156 Ks… Damon is awful in defense and we won the world series with it! Cameron brings the same amount of HRs and probably more than Damon can deliver next year (he can hit HRs on the road 10 in 2009 on the road) and his defense is so much better than Damon’s that is makes up for .030 points in BA and it makes up for 58 more Ks.