According, to Anthony DiComo (MLB), the Yankees appear ready to skip Joba Chamberlain’s next start (not tonight’s start), which is this Sunday against Seattle. Instead of Joba, it looks like Chad Guadin could get the nod. Joba needs to be kept to an innings limit and with Gaudin, Towers, Ortiz and Hirsh serving as rotation depth (probably in that order, too), they’ll try to keep him as fresh as possible for a playoff run.
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This is why I think the best move might be Aceves to the rotation. If we can settle down the 5 spot, resting Joba is not so damaging. But having Mitre and Gaudin pitch 2 out 5 might start posing a problem.
Definitely. Mitre will probably go Saturday, then we’d see Gaudin. It could get messy.
Yeah it could get messy but those two aren’t going to blow a 5 1/2 game lead, can they contribute to it? Obviously, but I doubt Girardi and Cashman will put Gaudin and Mitre in a situation to be “stoppers” if CC and AJ start to struggle… I think in that scenario you would see Joba pick up his starts with regular rest if the rest if the rotation doesn’t pitch well.
Aceves is much to important in the Pen to be starting. If any of the guys (Gaudin-Mitre) get knocked around…Ace is the guy. If one needs someone to come in in the 6th/7th…Ace is the man.
Unless Bruney can get back to his old self, we need Ace in the Pen.
There is really no surprise here, after what Cashman said I think we all pretty much new this was the way it was going to be handled and quite frankly it is the best way… no need to put him back in the pen to have to stretch him back out again and have a set back at the beginning of next season. As far as Aceves in the rotation I am in favor of it but I am not sure if it is worth losing the value he has out of the pen being able to pitch 3 and 4 scoreless innings in relief is huge in a playoff race. With that said the last time Aceves went 4 innings in relief it was followed by taking Wang’s place in the rotation so maybe yesterday was stretching Aceves out to take Mitre’s spot and Gaudin takes over the long relief role and spot starts Joba as the “6th starter”.
I won’t be surprised if they limit the starts he does make to 5 innings per start, giving him some regular work but limiting his innings even further.
If he makes another 6 starts (limited to 5 IP each) in the 7 weeks remaining in the season, and throws 5 innings tonight, that would put him at 150 for the season.Sounds about right.
No they won’t limit his innings, I do not understand the infatuation with innings limit when pitch count is a much better indicator and pitches per inning. The way he has been pitching since the allstar break he has not been pressured or stressed. Cashman has a plan that he has yet to reveal completely the plan for Joba according to Peter Abraham. If it was an innings limit it would have been told to Joba at this point but I think they are going to analyze him statistically with the stats that have been developed to tell how much a pitcher is overworked.
I agree, but nobody has any idea how many pitches he’s allowed for the season, so we’re left to discuss innings.
They won’t do that at all! If you are in a 0-0 game and he has 65 pitches and and 6 Ks entering the 6th and you take him out prepare for a riot in the stadium! They will just skip starts and they will determine how many get skipped by how many innings he pitches based on pitch count through out the rest of the season.
Well it looks like Joba has very little trust in his fastball command tonight, we have seen this a few time this year most notably in the rain delayed start against the Ranger in Texas and in a rain delayed game New York vs the Nationals. Now as then (although not as bad as then) Joba has completely fallen in love with his slider and curveball which is fine but he has done it because he has no trust in where the fastball is going… This has to fall on Dave Eiland IMO, you know with Joba everything works off of his fastball and in fact he can not be successful unless he establishes his fastball as a pitch that can go anywhere at anytime. If you are the pitching coach that is working on the team that Joba Chamberlain is playing for you must get it in his head in the days leading up to his starts (not in a mound visit during the game) that no matter what do not abandon the fastball. He gets in a groove throwing the ball and once he starts missing with the fastball and jerking it towards home he gives up on it and throws nothing but slider and curves and it causes him to walk batters because has to throw the fastball just to throw it and not throwing it to establish the pace of the game. He has to be drilled constantly on no matter what goes wrong stick with the fastball, now that doesn’t mean throw it in every count but stop abandoning it! 4-3 Blue Jays…
Well Joba has at best one more inning left in him if that having pitched 93 pitches in 5 innings and although he started the game out looking very much like the quick working, strike throwing flame thrower that took the mound against the Rays he ended up becoming more like the Joba who walked 7 with no fastball command who started against the Red Sox… the problem is this time he is down 4-3 and our offense hasn’t lit up Richmond to help him out. Now Joba hasn’t looked as bad as he did control wise s he did last week but just because the control on the curve and slider are there so it is a slight progression from his last outing but with his next start already determined as skipped it could be quite a while until we see Chamberlain again and by that time this new “routine” could set him back once again. We will see but it is hard to keep up the dominance he showed out of the gate when your starts keeps getting pushed back 3 days and a week and you never know exactly what the next week will bring.
Agreed. He was ok, and it was a progression (just two walks), but not looking like the guy who came out of the ASB flying. Now he has some time to think about it, maybe get back to his aggressiveness.
Anyone think the Yankees will make a run at Vincent Padilla? If he clears waivers, why not. It fits Cashman’s MO.
There’s bad blood there between he and Teixeira, but I still see it happening…
The club house has to good of chemistry to add Padilla!!! The guy takes over 20 seconds on average in between pitches which is the worst in MLB, he hits people on purpose endangering Alex. Jeter and Tex, and he has hit Tex twice in a game in which the Yankees players told Rangers players “if he keeps this up someone on your team is going to get hurt”… In my opinion it would be the worst mistake this club could make adding Vicente Padilla… the club house is way to important to this team and to this team’s morale to add a guy who kick throw it out of wack in any way!