RLYW recently compiled the projections for Derek Jeter’s 2009, and the numbers were underwhelming. Although I think Jeter’s injury-hampered 2008 hopelessly skews any predictions for the upcoming season, it was discouraging to see that most projection systems only see a meager bounceback from the captain. The most disturbing portion of the post was that which put a dollar value on Derek’s projected performance. Even if the Yankees value a win at a very high 6M dollars, Derek will still be overpaid by 9.3 million dollars. At this point, his compensation is totally out of sync with his value, even when considering his off field importance to the organization. The disparity should make for some interesting negotiations following the 2010 season, and may lead to a parting of ways between the organization and its most popular player.
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I agree. If you subtract the month after Derek got hit on the hand May 20th by Daniel Cabrera, his production was in line with his career norms.
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I’m not ready to make him a regression candidate just yet.
“”"”The disparity should make for some interesting negotiations following the 2010 season, and may lead to a parting of ways between the organization and its most popular player. “”"”"”
Why?
Who else will pay him more to play SS than the Yankees? He may play for a lot less but I don’t see Yankees letting him go or anyone else stepping up to overpay him.
I could see someone offering him more years than the Yankees, or at least guaranteeing him shortstop for a few years. I wonder what he would do if, say, Seattle offered him the same amount as the Yankees, with a guarantee that he is the SS for 3 seasons.
I remember when the Scooter was still alive and they were talking to him about how Jeter measures up against other Yankees favorites in terms of the ‘fan love’ and Rizzuto said it was no contest. Mattingly, Munson, Mantle, Joe-D, and Gehrig didn’t measure up.
There’s just no way the organization allows who could be the most popular Yankee player of all time to leave. Also, there is a good chance he won’t get to reach 3,000 hits until the 2011 season. Does the brass want to see him do it for the Dodgers or another team? No freaking way.
Listen, I agree. I think they should resign him, and I think he is going to cost them more because he holds more value for them than anyone else. I’m just starting to get the vibe that there are so many negative things out there about Jeter now that he could come to the table, feel lowballed, and leave for another team in a huff.
Jeter will be a Yankee but he is going to have to give up a lot of dough.
Moshe,
You guys are doing an outstanding job with this site. If anything, there is almost too much content and that sometimes prevents the strings from fully evolving. But this is like complaining that one has too much money.
Let me ask all you Jeter lovers a question. If the Yankees dump Jeter in the most nastiest of ways will you stop being a Yankee fan?
Personally I can’t wait until he is retired. 15 years is a great run and I have enjoyed watching him but I don’t want anymore after this contract!
It’s funny, I’m sitting next to my brother, and right before I read your comment, he said that he would stop being a fan if they let Jeter go. I’m not sure if he was serious, but you get the point.
Let me ask you a question. Why the hate for Jeter? Unless they have an adequate replacement, why just discard him? He is still one of the top6-8 SS in baseball, so why get rid of a legendary Yankee? It is not our money. If the team finds themselves willing to pay what he wants, why is it a bad thing? I just think that there may problems negotiating due to his diminished value and how he sees himself.
You must have listened to Jeter last year after games and he said the same stinking garbage comment over and over. “We are consistently inconsistent” That is not leadership imo not when you see just how deeply Damon and Pettitte feel things. Jeter as the face of the Yankees is a media thing. Posada should have been the captain of the Yankees not Jeter.
I have enjoyed watching Jeter but I am ready to move on as a Yankee fan. I am a Yankees fan not a Jeter first fan!
Except that everyone around the Yankees think he is a great leader. We are not in the locker room, so it is really hard to judge. And as a Yankee fan, not a Jeter fan, you should want the best thing for the club. That might be resigning Jeter.
I don’t believe Jeter will be a tremendous asset heading into the 2011 season. I think there will be younger and better players available. There is no sense living in the past when the future looks so bright.
I forget where but some blog put forth the question of what 5 things have caused the Yankees to not win a World Series since 2000. I never got to read there responses but I thought about it a lot. It is interesting how the Yankees changed there approach this off season compared to after the 2000 season. This past off season the Yankees sign the big 3. After 2000 the Yankees signed Mussina but they didn’t sign Manny Ramirez instead they resigned Paul O’niell for one last season. You can argue all you want but what if the Yankees had signed both the best pitcher and best hitter available and let an aging player go instead of what they did? Would the Yankees have won some more World Series in the last 8 years? This year they got not only the best pitchers but the best hitter so maybe Cashman does learn from his mistakes.
Don’t forget the Beltran fiasco as well. He should have been a Yankee and they passed on him. They did the same that season showing loyalty to an aging player over a younger up and coming player.
Now go forward to after the 2010 season. Do you and better yet if you are in the business of winning baseball games and World Series show loyalty to Jeter? I believe the Yankees have already made a decision on Jeter and he’s not coming back. They changed there approach this off season and that bodes well for the future. Add to that the freight train of minor league talent coming soon and no need for Jeter.
My hope for Jeter is he sees this and retires gracefully.
The Yankees have no one available as a SS. They are bare in the minors in terms of middle infielders. And the Beltran thing was bc they valued pitching over hitting, it had little to do with Bernie.
So you say the Beltran thing had nothing to do with Bernie well I don’t believe that. I think that was because of a fractured front office and part pitching and part Bernie. Right now JJ Hardy has decided to not sign a long term deal. He will be a free agent after the 2010 season. If he is available who do you want Jeter or Hardy? The Yankees have showed loyalty in the past and it’s cost them.
As for minor league middle infielders well Pena looks good this spring. Nunez looked fantastic this spring as well and remember he gave up switch hitting and went only from the right side in the summer of 07. That has to have been a very difficult transition just hitting from the right side. Then there is Sublett and Angellini along with others such as Lassiter.
I don’t need Jeter to play SS or outfield or dh. I don’t want him and I don’t want my manager showing loyalty to him by playing him over younger and better players.
Being that the Yankees brought in Lofton to compete with Bernie the year before, I am certain that it had little to nothing to do with Bernie.
In regard to the minor leaguers, EJ will touch on this today or tomorrow, but its safe to say that most insiders believe Jeter’s replacement is not in the system. And regarding Hardy, he is the one guy I can see fitting. If he makes it to free agency, then the Yankees may have a dilemma on their hands.
I have a feeling that Cano will be traded by the end of 2010, that Jeter will be re-signed, and that Jeter will ultimately wind up at second base.
The problem is the 2B requires just as much range as SS.