Who is the Long Man?
One of the most overlooked aspects to any team, right along with the utility man, is the long reliever spot. It tends to be a spot that turns over a few times every year, rather than being a guy that is a steady rock of the team. When the Yankees ruled the world, however, they had an extremely valuable long man by the name of Ramiro Mendoza, who got the Yankees out of countless jams in big spots, particularly against the Red Sox in the playoffs.
Mendoza was the type of pitcher who could be equally successful in long spot duty as in setting up Mariano, Nelson, or Stanton (of course that may have contributed to him blowing out his arm). With a guy like Joba in the rotation this year, however, and all the problems getting innings from their starters last year, Joe may want to keep a steady long guy rather than having a short guy who can sometimes go long in an emergency.
The Candidates:
Dan Giese (The Incumbent): Extremely respectable 3.53 ERA and 1.22 WHIP last year in spot starts and long duty. Many expected the bubble to burst last year, saying he only has 2 pitches, but he was terrific, and a tremendous asset to a team desperate for innings. Very little upside at age 31, however.
Phil Coke (The Lefty): As a starter for most of his professional career, Coke could be a long guy next year, but he definitely seems more effective in the short role where he can let go and throw as hard as he can. He added mph and was much more effective out of the pen than as a starter, last year, judging from his stunning 0.61 ERA, 0.68 WHIP and .162 BAA as a major league reliever compared to 2.51, 1.22, .239 as a AA (mostly) starter.
Alfredo Aceves (The Mexican Gangster): 2.40 ERA and 1.17 WHIP in very limited major league action. At 26, Aceves is entering his prime years. He has tremendous guile and guts. He doesn’t throw terribly hard or show great movement but has several pitches he can throw for strikes and really knows how to pitch.
The Others: Albaladejo, IPK, Hughes, Steven Jackson, Jason Johnson, Humberto Sanchez are all possibilities but seem unlikely for a variety of reasons. I know they went with Albie coming out of ST last year, but he’s done the vast bulk of his work as a short guy.
I think a lot of this depends on Coke. Ideally, I think Joe loves to have (as he proved down the stretch last year) 7 guys in the pen that he can mix and match on almost a daily basis. Aceves and Giese are more pure long guys, not pitchers who Joe would feel confident throwing out there to face 2 batters in the 7th inning.
I think Joe would love to have Coke’s versatility in that role, but I would be nervous about ruining him by asking him to pitch both long and short stints. I suspect this spot will be a bit of a rotating door as he sometimes leaves Coke in that spot, while other times goes with Giese. I give Giese a slight edge b/c the Yanks probably wouldn’t have 40 manned him unless they had a role in mind and he was very effective working in tandem with Joba last year.
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The Coke idea, while smart in theory, is a non-starter for me. That’s what they did with Ohlendorf last season, and it killed him. I would go with Giese with Aceves being next in line for the job.
I agree. Coke is in the Scranton rotation unless Marte gets injured. Giese and Aceves fight it out for long man.
I feel Coke was so dominant in his callup that he’d have to pitch his way off the roster not to make it. The way Joe likes to mix and match, I think he’d love to have 2 good lefties in the pen. I think you abandon the Coke as starter angle (unless they want to trade him) and utilize him as they did last year – as a short man: 1-2 innings and the occasional lefty matchup specialist. I don’t bother with any pretensions of starting him – there’s no room in this rotation for years to come.
Did you forget about David Robertson? I think he has a shot at making the team as a long reliever as well.
The problem with players like Geise is that they take up a roster spot and are never worth much as a trading chip.
I happen to think Coke pitched better than MArte at the end of last season.
He has as good as a fastball as Marte and better control of his breaking ball.
Coke MUST make the team.
RObertson should either make it or be used in a trade.There’s no point in sending him back down.
Melancon is a waste in the minors at this point also.
Assuming Mo is MO, I’d use Bruney as the 8th inning guy, MArte for Lefties (COke is better) and I think Veras deserves one more chance.He was throwing very hard at the ned of the season.
I’m not an Edwar Ramirez believer.I think the more batters see him the more they’ll lay off the change in the dirt and kill the other stuff.
Mariano
Bruney
Marte
Veras
COke
Robertson
Melancon
Ramirez
Geise
That’s my batting order.I’m not totally convince ROberston is the real deal either.That’s a straight 92 MPH fastball he throws but if the braking stuff gets more consistent he could be fine.
I forgot Aceves who makes a lot of sense as a long man because he’s also an emergency or spot starter.
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